Swimming In My Head…

diving in the deep end…

What’s with the Mormons?

I’m just curious about the mormon church and their recent joining of forces with the Catholic church to tip the scale for donations to make sure that Prop 8 passed.

The mormons have historically had very bad things to say about Catholics including calling them the “church of the devil.”  So, I wonder how an issue like Prop 8 can mend fences so quickly?

It’s ok to join forces with the “church of the devil” to thwart devilish activity?  Come on now…that’s a stretch.  What I’d like to know is what are they protecting?  “The sanctity of marriage”?  That’s canned and ambiguous.  What does that mean?

Why are people so emotionally charged over something that, in the grand scheme of things, doesn’t even affect them.  If you’re not gay, why does it matter to you whether 2 people who are in love are allowed the same choices that you are afforded in the “land of the free”?

Why does ‘traditional’ marriage, as defined, only have a 50% chance of survival?  If it’s so sanctified, the percentage of failure should be considerably less than half.  My understanding is that, for a mormon, the highest degree of the kingdom is for a man to have more than one wife.  Is that how you get around that one?  Go green, practice polygamy – it’s the new adultery.

It may not be today or even next year, but when a group of people decides to join forces with another group of people that they have historically and will continue to call, an enemy merely to serve a fleeting, selfish issue, something bad will come out of it.  Karma’s a bitch.  You can’t be a martyr if you’re paying to be persecuted.


November 16, 2008 - Posted by | Really? | , , , , , ,


  1. Straight from the official LDS.org website:

    The family is ordained of God. Marriage between man and woman is essential to His eternal plan. At certain times and for His specific purposes, God, through His prophets, has directed the practice of plural marriage (sometimes called polygamy), which means one man having more than one living wife at the same time. In obedience to direction from God, Latter-day Saints followed this practice for about 50 years during the 1800s but officially ceased the practice of such marriages after the Manifesto was issued by President Woodruff in 1890. Since that time, plural marriage has not been approved by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and any member adopting this practice is subject to losing his or her membership in the Church.

    I don’t think I need much more explanation than that as to polygamy in the LDS Church.

    If you’re not gay, why does it matter to you whether 2 people who are in love are allowed the same choices that you are afforded in the “land of the free”?

    That’s just it: they are allowed the same choices that I am afforded. Anyone of age can marry in has the right to marry anyone of the opposite sex. They already have the same rights! But, pro-gay marriage people aren’t obviously asking for the same rights, they’re asking for special rights.

    Comment by Jesse | November 16, 2008

  2. Jesse – Thanks for your thoughts.

    Forgive me for not seeing your answer regarding, how the mormons justify their alliance with the Catholic church when they call Catholics the “church of the devil”?

    The other question that you chose to answer was not answered. I don’t want any propaganda from your church and I don’t want any of your canned answers.

    Since you chose to discuss with me, I’m asking you; if you’re not gay, why does it matter to you whether 2 people who are in love are allowed the same choices that you are afforded…?

    “Special rights” was clever but ineffective. That’s nothing more than a deflection. According to your blog, you’re a married man, so how does a gay couple that now has a certificate to simply recognize their relationship affect you and your wife? What does it do to your faith? What makes it so traumatic for you?

    When you can answer that without the help of your lds website and canned answers, and say what you truly feel, a lot more can be accomplished.

    “When you walk in the footsteps of a stranger, you learn things you never knew.”

    Comment by deek1973 | November 16, 2008

  3. deek, does that give you flashbacks or what? Does Jesse realize that gay couples don’t have the same rights as married couples. They aren’t looking for “special rights” they’re looking for human rights. Maybe he needs to start hanging out with some gay couples on a regular basis and see what its really like. I’m straight and married and I’ve seen the injustices my friends have faced.

    Comment by AL | November 21, 2008

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